Die A Little More Podcast
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Letting Go of Control: Trusting God's Greater Plan
What thoughts are you desperately clinging to? In this deeply personal conversation, Brian and Brian explore the challenging process of releasing control and allowing God to renew our minds.
Using a powerful image of a person stubbornly holding ropes that represent entrenched thought patterns, we examine why we resist transformation. The ropes may feel like strength—evidence of our self-reliance—but they're actually binding us in ways we don't recognize. Through Scripture and personal stories, we unpack Romans 12:2 and what it truly means to undergo "a total reformation of how you think."
Why do men especially struggle to release control and trust God with their innermost thoughts and feelings? We dive into the vulnerability required to admit we can't change ourselves. The real battle isn't just behavioral modification but addressing the root lies we've believed about God, ourselves, and our circumstances.
If you've ever found yourself paddling madly upstream while God invites you to trust Him and go over the waterfall, this episode offers hope. We explore how the Holy Spirit reveals "things freely given to us by God" (1 Corinthians 2:12) and how Scripture washes away old mindsets. Most powerfully, we discover that sometimes the most difficult spiritual work isn't doing more—it's letting go.
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like he's more than willing to bring freedom, but I've trusted in this system that I've set up for so long, right that I don't know anything else, and it's absolutely horrifyingly, freaking me out to have to say yes, I have to trust somebody else.
Speaker 2:Yo, good morning, what's happening? Good morning, what's up. Man, brian and Brian here with the Die A Little More podcast and just want to say what's up.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, no negative comments. That gets you fired, that's right.
Speaker 2:Or we'll smash the hat and then send it to you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll smash the hat and send it to you. There you go. Yes, I like that idea.
Speaker 2:That's really good.
Speaker 1:There's your hat. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks, oh man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we appreciate all you guys listening. This has been a fun little journey for us and a little adventure trying to do these, trying to minister to not just others but also ourselves. It's funny. We both go back and we both listen periodically to the different podcasts that we've done and almost every single time it hits us in a different way than it did when we actually recorded it. Yeah, so it's kind of neat when we go back and listen to the things that we've talked about, it actually, in turn, ends up ministering back to us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I called you the other day. I was like, do you ever get like all emotional and messed up listening to our own podcast? Yes, yeah, so, like, who knows? Like maybe it's just for us, but actually it's not true. We've both had really cool, a couple of cool interactions that were like very like uh, natural, like um, I had I've had a couple people say you know, hey, I've been listening to the podcast and it really ministers to me and like I was like what, like how did you even hear about it?
Speaker 1:like yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a friend of mine that, um, I had sent it to and was going through some stuff and he listened I think it was just to the first episode and he, he was just so excited about it, got a ton of insights from it and wanted me to call him so he could, he could talk to me and tell me the things that he, that he got from it. But he said it was everything that he was going through and then it just really ministered to him. So I know that we've talked back and forth just about, you know, maybe lighting up a few times or doing something a little bit different for the podcast, because we always end up just going right back to this, to the things that we talk about, you know, but it just seems like that's just the way the Lord's directing everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, it's where everybody's at. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I think you said you had somebody approach you and tell you that they, they love the podcast and to to keep doing what we were doing because nobody was talking about that stuff. Yeah, yeah, I said to him. I said to him yeah, you think we should like lighten it up or anything. Sometimes I feel like it's heavy and he's like no, no, no, no, no, you know, cause, like most, most, most of the time, you're not hearing something that's going that deep, like on a Sunday morning, or something you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so all right, we'll just keep doing what we're doing. All right.
Speaker 2:Game on. I told Brian yesterday. I said you know some people are called like to like certain like areas. You know like they might be called to like. You know like a really dark neighborhood or like a country that has like a lot of you know whatever stuff going on, like a country that has like a lot of you know whatever stuff going on and like. But I was like I feel like we're called to like that, that dark part of men's hearts you know, the part where guys don't want to go down there.
Speaker 2:Nobody, nobody wants to go down that street, you know, nobody wants to open up that wound and and weirdly, unfortunately or fortunately, I'm not sure the Lord has taken us both through those neighborhoods in our own lives. So we just have such a heart for finding guys where they're at. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I heard this guy speaking the other day. I actually heard two guys speaking and they both used this verse and I tried to look it up, but I can't find it. I know it's in, I think, 2 Corinthians, but it says like the Holy Spirit reveals to us the things that he has freely given to us. It was like, I think it's in 2 Corinthians, I thought it was like 2.12 or something like that, but I'm not seeing it right now, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:If you want to look it up, yeah, but basically, you know, I just thought, like man, we need to pray this morning that the Holy Spirit would reveal to us, like, all the wonderful things, all the gifts that he's given us and all the stuff that he's doing in our lives. So, yeah, I'll just start with some prayer. Lord, we love you, we come before you. Lord, we get on our knees, lord, in a posture of Lord. Would you speak to us, lord? Would you comfort us? Would you reveal to us, lord, all you comfort us? Would you reveal to us, lord, all of the wonderful things that you have prepared for us, lord? God, we're just thankful, lord, that you found us, lord, and that you came and you picked us up, lord, and that we're just one of your own Lord. So this morning we just thank you for that and, yeah, just be with us in this podcast and be with anybody who's listening and just touch their hearts and their souls. So, jesus name, amen.
Speaker 1:Was it the Passion Translation?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't think it was, but what do you got?
Speaker 1:First Corinthians, 12, 11. Is that it?
Speaker 2:I don I don't know you know it's funny I don't think it was, but like you know that verse that says like um, no eye has seen and no ear has heard yeah yeah, it's like right after that, um, um, yeah, I don't know. But what? What a great start to the podcast. I'm talking about bible verse. I have no idea about that's what we do.
Speaker 1:We're men.
Speaker 2:We don't ask for directions, we just shoot from the hip.
Speaker 1:It's in there, you couldn't get any more man than that.
Speaker 2:It's in the book. You know the thingy, the manual Is that it, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Hold on. That's right after that verse. Yeah, let's see. That's literally the scripture right after that no, I S C, no E R S R E, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, okay, Okay, cool, awesome, you found it. So, yeah, it is. Oh, it's 1 Corinthians. I was looking in 2 Corinthians, 1 Corinthians 12, 2. It says Now, we too. It says, um, now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. And I was like whoa, that was kind of like I don't know. I just saw it. I saw it like in a new way, like the Holy Spirit. One of the things that he does is is he reveals to us the things that have been freely given to us by God.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I just love that verse. I was like dude, that is cool. Like you know how sometimes we're like you know. I think God's saying this to me and it's like. That's that verse you know, it's like he's revealing these things to us, Like you know, like you know how sometimes we'll have like a wacky story. We're like man the lord's telling me this, or he showed me this like vision or whatever it's like. That is like the proof of that you know like that's.
Speaker 1:His job is to reveal all that god's given to us, you know yeah, well, it's fine, and find it in in the word where you know it's like okay, I'm not, I'm not off base, right? He's like right like yeah what I'm feeling or what I'm sensing or what he's telling me to go do. It's like it can be.
Speaker 2:It's found right there in scripture, in the word so it's like it lines up so let's go yeah, yeah, like you might be, like you know what, like man, I'm so free, I'm forgiven man, I'm like I'm a new creation and you're walking around feeling that that day, and it's like that is the holy spirit revealing to you the things that god's given to you.
Speaker 2:You know it's, yeah, such a cool verse. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. And it's weird because if you scroll back it says like no eye has seen and no ear has heard the things that God has prepared for us. But then it says but the Holy Spirit was given to us so that we could see those things. Yeah, yeah, I was like I guess I never caught that before. Like, like, like I guess I never caught that before.
Speaker 1:Like it's like the answer is right there, you know, yeah, super cool. That's why you got to read the whole bible, not just one verse. Oops, and take it out of context. Oh yeah, read before and after oh shoot.
Speaker 2:Well, that's gonna blow away my whole thing here.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding it's all right, there's grace, that's right, that's right. Anyways, I've been talking to you like a little bit, like a lot, about the renewing of our minds. Yeah and um, it's something that I just kind of thought we could talk about today for a little bit. Um, I feel like the Lord is doing a work in me and um, yeah, so, so, everybody knows that verse, you know? Um, this one is Romans 12 too. Um, do you want to look that up? Romans 12, 2. Look it up in, like the New King James or something, because I want to compare it.
Speaker 1:Got it, okay, read it and do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Speaker 2:All right, awesome. That's kind of like the version that everybody knows. You know, do not be or sorry, be transformed. Do not be and do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Okay, I like it too here. In the passion translation it says stop imitating the ideals and opinions of the culture around you hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me get the flaming arrow right out of my heart we in trouble now, but there's more.
Speaker 2:Be inwardly transformed by the Holy Spirit through a total reformation of how you think.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on. That's see. That's why I love that version bro I mean, this is good, the New King James. But then you read the Passion Translation and it's just like the five-finger death punch dude to your heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so totally, totally. Yeah, you know, there's so much in that, like in that new kind of whatever. There's just so much in it, okay, okay, the total reformation of how you think I I was telling you this yesterday, right, like I saw like a picture like of me, uh, holding a bunch of ropes, right I was telling you oh yeah, okay yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm gonna give you, like the give everybody the picture, like I kind of like I felt like the lord was showing me this picture. It was like me in my left hand holding all these ropes and they kind of went up to the sky almost like a kite, but they were big, thick ropes and I felt like the Lord was saying to me each one of these represents a way that you think and you're holding on for dear life with these ways that you think and, um, they there's even a part of it where, like, I'm looking at my arm and I'm thinking, man, my arm looks kind of strong right now look at, look at all these ropes I'm holding, like I'm so, like like I'm tough right, like yeah, I'm so, I have like even like pride in what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:Okay, but the lord was saying each one of those ropes represents like a way that you think. That is not how I think. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's like, and you are holding on to them for dear life. So each one of those ropes represents, like, a way that I think you know, and the fact that I, that I'm holding onto them so tight is, is causing actually me to be in bondage to them, you know, and I felt like the Lord was saying like if you would like take each one of these thoughts and like, analyze them and and like or and let them go, you know, then you could actually be set free and that is the renewing of the mind. It's like I used to. I was thinking of it as like this total, like spiritual, like woo-woo thing, but it's more like. It's more like granule, like, like, like. I think, you know, I think like I have to be this way, like, or my life's not going to work out Right.
Speaker 2:Or like you know, I think, like I have to be this way, like or my life's not going to work out Right, or like you know, and what the Lord is saying is like, if you would let go of that and just let your life be like, you will be fine. You know what I mean, um, but it's like you get caught up like holding all these thoughts that are not his thoughts. You know, um, you know, one of the ones, one of the ones I've struggled with over the years, is like so if you guys don't know me, it's like you know I was married and then I got divorced, you know, and have kids, and then you know, now I'm remarried, but like there was this part of me where I was like man, like my life so this is a rope I'm holding onto my life didn't turn out like I thought it was going to be. Now it can't be good and I didn't.
Speaker 2:It's subconscious, like I didn't know I was thinking that like, but it was like I was so held onto this like picture of, like how my life had to be, that then now, like now I'm in bondage and the Lord's like, he's like showing me these things like one by one, like this thing is a way that you think and and you can like be renewed in that way. Right, yeah, because I mean that's what the word says. Like you know, your ways are not my ways, like, and he came to renew us, he came to restore us, he came to forgive us, to like give us new life. You know, but if we're holding on to these like ropes, like we're not actually allowing him to change our mind and it can actually be super difficult to change our mind you know like we can be really, really set in our ways because, like, letting go of the ropes feels like well, I mean, it feels like letting go of control yeah, 100, 100, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:What do you think that thing is that causes us to believe and wholeheartedly, heartedly, just subscribe to the lie? Right, because it's essentially what it is right. It's a lie that we have believed. Right, the enemy is sown, a deception, and then we actually take pride in it because we think we're doing good by handling it ourselves. But really what we're doing is we've believed a lie to the point where we're just like now everything in our life is wrapped around this. Right, this goes this also goes along with some things we've already talked about where it's like you're where, where it's anchored, where is your thought life anchored? Where is your, where are your emotions anchored? And it's like I'm holding on to all of these ropes, dude. I've anchored my belief system in a way to all of that right, so I'm essentially believing a lie like what do you think it is that causes us? Is it just easier to believe that because we maintain some sort of control, or yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's a couple things I was thinking like it reminds me a little bit and I hate saying this because I'm just like, oh, I get so convicted but it reminds me a little bit of like the Pharisees right, the Pharisees were like we know the word, we understand the word, we know how it's supposed to go. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then when Jesus came, they were like what the heck is this, like? This is not what it says. And Jesus was like, no, no, you're wrong in your interpretation. Right, you, you were looking for something, but when the real christ came, like you weren't open to it, you know, or you were so set in thinking that you knew, like this is the way it should be, that you, you weren't open to like the freeness of, like the spirit, you know, yeah, yeah. And then I think too, it's like there's, there's a lot of flesh in there, you know, because it's like we want to be in control, we think, we think, we know, and that's kind of like the flesh, you know, like it's got to be this way, or I can't be happy, or whatever, and to let go of that is just uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So maybe the so fleshing this out right, so maybe the control feeds into that deception right when we, like, we're grabbing onto these false ideas or on to these things out of fear, or whatever the case is, and by doing that we've somehow, in a weird and twisted way, feel that we're empowering ourselves because we're under the facade of being in control. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we're believing and throwing everything we have into this basket, dude, that it's like I'm going to hold on to this rope. I'm going to continue to believe this thing, right here. Right. Right and I've got false control, but it's like I feel like I'm doing something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I've had this like thing in my head for like a couple of years where I feel like the Lord's, like, like I see myself like at the top of a waterfall, like in a boat, like madly paddling back up river right and he's like would you just let yourself go over the edge? Yeah, Just let yourself.
Speaker 2:Go to me, man, Like let it go, Like I'll, because it means you don't trust me. That's what it means right Like if you're not like I'm telling you like everything's going to be okay, Trust me, Like just like, let everything go, Just you know, believe and and just go forward, right. But we're like, nope, I'm paddling upstream because I don't want to go over that edge, because why? It's scary?
Speaker 2:yeah so maybe that's part of it. It's like it's scary to give god full control, but in the meantime we were just sweating dude paddling uphill yeah with everything we've gotten, it's miserable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think that's probably the the. The realness of that right Is us not being sure inside that we can trust God in freedom? Yeah, like he's more than willing to bring freedom, but I've trusted in this system that I've set up for so long that I don't know anything else and it's absolutely horrifyingly freaking me out to have to say, yes, I have to trust somebody else.
Speaker 1:Right this goes back to what we were talking about before. It's like I think an episode or two ago where it was like I was going through some stuff and you were just encouraging me to like.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, you just don't know, god, in that area in your life yet, right, like, so you're like, you're going through this and you just you haven't, like trusted him to be there for you in that area, so just ask him to help you trust him in this area and to to show you this side of him, right, right, so anything that goes along with that, too, is like, well, we have to be willing to to, yeah, relinquish the control, but that freaks us out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we don't know him right in that way right, right, and he's absolutely 100 of the time wanting to reveal himself in that way to us to show us I can be there for you, I can take care of you. Yeah, I got you, don't worry about it, right, but we have, we struggle with that. Yeah, so I think it's. It's. There's a trust issue there too, because we're just not sure, right. I mean, dude, we in life, everybody lets us down there there's disappointment I mean all day, long, day long in every area of our life. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's really easy to get caught up in that and just describe that. Well, god must be the same. Right, because this is all we know. Right, this is all we know is our interactions with each other, with coworkers or our family, you know, in society, it's like this is the only thing that we understand. So this must be the way that it is with God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I heard a pastor say something that I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. He said when we get disappointed with man, we get disappointed with God. I was like huh, like it was like. He was like we're all so like inner connected, like you know something that we can. It's almost like a tendency where we can be like you know, man has let us down, so then like we feel let down by God. You know, I totally relate to that. You know what I mean. I relate to that big time. You know, I've even been like in fights with God. You know like what the heck? You know, like why, why, how, why and how could you have let that happen? You know, um, yeah, and just so interesting, and yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's that's.
Speaker 1:That's the hard one, and I feel like we always kind of the last, you know, since the first episode actually, I feel like we always kind of since the first episode actually, I feel like we always have kind of hit on this, because this is, I think, a major hang-up of ours Is that we don't we ascribe everything that happens in natural life to the Father and to Jesus and to the Holy Spirit. Well, if this is the way it is in life, this is the way it must be with them too. Right, and I think a lot of it is that we just haven't taken the time either through because of fear or whatever the case is. It's like to to get to know them and just ask a simple question. I think a lot of times we're just we're just unsure and maybe even just a little bit afraid to ask the question.
Speaker 1:Right, like it doesn't matter how how many times we hear a message, how many times we're encouraged by a fellow believer, somebody else, like god is close, holy spirit resides inside of you. Like I mean, we have the word that tells us that jesus sticks closer than a brother. It doesn't matter how many things we experience or hear that tells us how close God is. We just don't like choose to understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right. It's like if we would just open our mouth and ask him a question, he would more than happy to answer, right. So it's like I think the thing is is that we're just unsure, and so maybe that's the starting point. Is just like, I need you to show me how to move past this, because I'm, I'm afraid, like dude. Everybody in my life has let me down, like I have all these things going on, right, I've been hurt by this and by this. He knows all that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, but it's like if we would just take the time to stop and just have a regular conversation, right? He would answer. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it may come in the form of him speaking to your heart. It may come in the form of him speaking to you, where you can hear his voice. It may come in a scripture of him speaking to you and where you can hear his voice. It may come in a scripture. It may come from a friend of yours that you know, somebody that goes to church, or a best friend or somebody like that that has you know something, something to say. The lord will give them something, and it's like that's exact thing that you needed to hear yeah you know.
Speaker 1:but it's like it all goes back to starting the conversation with god and I think people are really cause I know that I have been over the years it's like really afraid to just open your mouth and start that conversation. I think some of it's because we're afraid of what he might say. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which isn't. He's never going to tell us anything that's bad. Never going to tell us anything that's going to hurt us. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I feel like it's circling right back to the, the renewing of your mind thing, right, because that, because I've also been thinking like, like, if you look at what, what, at the promises that he's made to us, right, and I think we get foggy because maybe we're like blending like our experience in real life with our experience in the spirit, and maybe it's not like, maybe we should. We need to be able to separate it more. You know, like you said, like all these people, let me down. Therefore, everybody, all things, let me down even including God, but it's but.
Speaker 2:So I've been thinking like man.
Speaker 2:The scriptures do not say that you know, it's like the scripture says the polar opposite of that, like I will never leave you, I will never forsake you. It's like I feel like we got. We got to get back to a renewing of our mind, even of just what it says in the Bible, and taking that and placing it over like all of the things that we think Right, and that's like the renewing of the mind. That is like letting go of the rope. Right Of man, I think all people let me down and so you were going to let go of that rope and we're going to then just remember, like God's version of of of that you know, which is like I will never uh, you know leave you or forsake you.
Speaker 2:And I just I'm like Lord, I need a total, like it says. I need a total reformation of how I think you know, and I need to be able to take the scriptures and place them higher than my own thinking, because that's where we get in trouble, you know, big time, because if we really lived according to the scriptures like, we would probably not find ourselves in so much trouble, so much drama. You know, so much garbage, garbage. It's like we're just we are actually living more off of here.
Speaker 1:It is what we say rather than what he says, you know yeah, yeah, I'm looking something up right now because you got me thinking yeah ephesians 5 trying to see what version to be better.
Speaker 1:Ephesians 5 trying to see what version would be better. 26 and 27. So this is on the hills of Christ, speaking to about marriage and the church. But there's a portion in here where renewing our mind can come in a few ways, but one of the major ways is through the word of God. Right, this is can come in a few ways, but one of the major ways is through the word of God. Right, this is. This is so. We keep everything in context because I now I have to, because I said something earlier. I'm not reading one verse. I'm so busted right now, um, so I'll read it. In the new King James, it's um five, 26 to 27. If you want to find, do you have the?
Speaker 2:passion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Say it again what was it?
Speaker 1:Ephesians 5, 26 to 27. It's a good. Two verses are good, but it's the second part of verse 26 that I want to focus in on because it has to do with the whole renewing of the mind. So let's see here New King James version, all right. So it says I'll start off in 25, but it's 26 and 27. I want to focus on husbands Love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for her. Verse 26, that he might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of the water of the word, that he might present her to himself a glorious church, having not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish, right. So it's. It's verse 26 where it's the washing, by the're reading the word like it's literally cleansing you right yeah, and it's, it doesn't.
Speaker 1:It's not just, it's not just one part. Right, you're, you're reading, it starts in your mind, right you see, with your eyes. It goes into your brain. You're trying to comprehend it, trying to understand it, and it's working its way down, right, so you have the knowledge. You've read it. Right Now it goes from there into your heart, where you get an understanding from it, right, and then from there it moves into this thing where they both get married. You have the intellectual and the understanding, the knowledge, you have the heart, and it turns into a revelation Right when it's applied. I think you and I just talked about this yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was like how do we make application to a lot of these things? Yeah, well, you have to have the knowledge of what you've read, you have to have it hit your heart so you have an understanding from it. Right, the Holy Spirit has to reveal that understanding from it. Right, the holy spirit has to reveal that, I mean, those two things marry. That offspring is a revelation which you then can apply to your life and move forward.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's gotta like yeah, I'm seeing it like it's gotta like come in and then you have to like, allow it to like make, make room in your mind or whatever, and then also you got to let the old way of thinking go 100%.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of like you got to be filled up with that word in your mind and then and you got to like physically or I think that's what the Lord is showing me is you have to intellectually let your old way of thinking go. You're going to say like I used to think, like this, you know and now.
Speaker 2:I. And now I'm going to choose to think like this. You know it's like, it's like the old song, like I once was blind, but now I see, you know it's like I once thought this way. That is the way I thought, you know, maybe even yesterday that's the way I thought. You know, maybe even yesterday that's the way I thought. But this word says this, and so today I'm going to choose to believe this right, which is what repentance it's metanoia yeah, a change of mind right change of mind wow, it's all interlinked sorry, we're gonna have to pause for a moment because our minds are no yeah it's the water, it's the washing of the word.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's exactly what you said. It's like it's literally repentance. Right, repentance isn't just saying I'm sorry. Yeah. Like it's the word metanoia it's you literally are having a change of thought, like you hit on something where it's like I have to choose.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To want to think different right, I look at it in terms to when you were talking to, I was hearing this. It's like the illustration of light and dark. Light and dark cannot occupy the same place at the same time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, light will always overcome Right. So, if we look at light as the new revelation and the things that the Lord is trying to teach us, and dark is the way that our old ways of thinking that aren't Christ-like are worldly, that need to be renewed and changed, right, when we take in that word and it washes us, light is replacing darkness, right, but it only stays when we change the way that we think by repenting. It's like I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to think this way because this is not right.
Speaker 2:I'm going to think this way because this is what the word says yeah, yeah, yeah there's so many things in there, oh my gosh, yeah, um, you know, it's kind of funny. I'm almost seeing it like like say there's a guy right and and he's like he wasn't saved and it's like and like he used to, you know, rob banks Right. He's like I used to rob banks Right, but now he's like but now I don't rob banks Like, I do things like I don't steal, right, because that's what the word says, you know.
Speaker 2:And so it's like it's a physical version of that, but what I'm thinking is, like there's a there and, and that's what happens, like when we get, when we become saved like we, we start kicking out all the old things that we do Right.
Speaker 2:But what I'm, what I, what I feel like, is where the Lord is like kind of working on us, is like he's getting down to the nitty gritty. You know, he's like in your, in your, in your quietest part of your mind you think this way and that has to be, that has to go. Yeah, that little thing actually is causing you so much pain. You know like you've got to replace that thing, just like the guy who's like I can no longer rob banks, right Cause well, that's obvious, like don't rob banks, we all know Right. But but we're like way more comfortable with us thinking these little thoughts that maybe nobody knows, you know that are, are these things that we're holding onto that are not in alignment, like, with what God says?
Speaker 1:Yeah, our thought life is huge, bro. I mean, I mean everything like starts there right.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's where the enemy starts his attack. Dude, right, I mean dude. I don't know how long ago, but that book that Joyce Myers wrote, the Battlefield of the Mind, right Years. I mean it's probably 20 years ago. But that's basically what it was talking about. It's how the enemy sows these lies and sows these ideas, and you and I even talked about it recently where it's like, before you even realize what's happening, like you, you're already thinking that same train of thought as what he just sowed right right.
Speaker 1:So, I case in point, this happened to me the other day. Right, I was, I had woken up and, um, still like trying to make some changes in my life, right, in terms of like stress and anxiety and things like that. But I woke up and the enemy had sown a thought and I wasn't even awake yet, I wasn't even half awake yet. I just opened my eyes and the thought was there and I got up and sat on the side of the bed at like 1 30 in the morning and I was like, oh my gosh, he was like sewing a lie, like about something in my life and I was, my mind just like took that and then, like top fuel, dragged it all the way down to the end of the track Right Nitrous and all Like gone. And it took the Lord saying something in that moment to get my attention off of what my brain was running away with, for me to be like wait, that's what, that's what that? No, that's not true and that's not happening right right now, yeah, right, but it was that's.
Speaker 1:That's how subtle the enemy works where he will. He can literally just plant the thought and just walk away, and our brains just like pick it up. Yeah, yeah. And just run with it. And this is one of the reasons why our minds. It's so important for us to renew our minds is because when our minds are renewed, I believe that we catch that faster and we're able to take that thing captive and throw it down.
Speaker 1:Like we're instructed in the word yeah right and then allow the lord to deal with us like there is something in us that the enemy thought that he could attach that to in order to keep us deceived or keep us in bondage or keep us wherever right, then we're not supposed to be yeah so then it's like the job is to go after that thing and ask the tough question to the lord. It's like what is it in me that the enemy was trying to attach that thought to?
Speaker 1:that needs to change yeah because if we get rid of that which is called the root, right if we get rid of the root, then nothing else can grow yeah, yeah he's literally throwing thoughts and trying to sow thoughts into soil that that isn't prepared for that right yeah, that's a tough one because I think that it takes a lot of work.
Speaker 2:It takes, I don't know, or maybe not, maybe it just takes like a serious, like you said conversation and then you got to be open to hearing what the Lord responds to you.
Speaker 1:That's the biggest part. That's really the biggest part is being open. Yeah, because I mean some of us are really good at asking the questions, but we're not so good at listening. Yeah, yeah, and then others are not so good at making application. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like. I remember I was at the doctor one time and the doctor was like, he's like, and you know me, I try to work out dude, I try to stage tape, but the doctor's just like you need to lose some weight, you know, and you're like what?
Speaker 1:And I was weight, you know, and I was like what?
Speaker 2:And I was like what Right? I was like, bro, you're like 102 pounds, like we're just different humans, you know. But and I was like, well, I try to eat good, you know, and I do all this stuff and like, and you eat too much. And I was like, bro, you're stupid, get out of here, like what he's just like, you just eat too much.
Speaker 1:And I was like what. I know people who eat way more than me.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right right, and it was like that was the word he gave me right and I'm just like, yeah, you're dumb dude, I don't want to hear that. Like that's stupid. Right, yeah, but that's like are we even open to the Lord saying to us and revealing what the problem is? Even if it's something that we're like like, our initial reaction is like that's stupid.
Speaker 1:That's actually really good dude. Yeah, because it's like he could be bringing your attention to something that you're See. Okay, look, all right, we don't know everything. Let me just get that out right front. Right, I'm just gonna pop everybody's balloon and blow everybody out of the water right now. It's like we do not know everything. Okay, speak for yourself, not happening like we're. We're so out of touch with what's really going on most of the time. Okay, we're human, all right. So therein lies a problem, because a lot of times, I know that even in my own personal life, the lord has brought something to my attention and you're like what right, that's not going on in me and it's like, okay, look, if I told you something, there's got to be something going on with you, right?
Speaker 1:Because what does the Bible say? He's not a man that he should lie, right, right, so if he's bringing something to our attention, there obviously must be something that we need to deal with, right. But we're so ready to dismiss that a lot of times because it's like, well, it's not on my radar, so you must be off, yeah. But then we go back again to the trust issue because it's like, well, if we trusted him, then we would take time to consider what it is he's saying and allow him to search our heart to bring it to our attention. Right, right, but that's, that's a hard one to learn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, especially for guys.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right, right, no-transcript. Like it is so hard for guys to even go there. Most guys are just like we just toughen up. You know, like when, when things aren't going our way, we just get harder. You know, we get stronger and we get like more, like you know, and like that's how we deal with stuff. Because, yeah, what's just?
Speaker 2:it's just so weird that part of us that's like we don't want to dive into the darkness or just dive into the hurting part of our souls because, like we don't want to feel like but it's, it's, it's so dumb, it's just so dumb of us. You know, it's like the old guy who's like I haven't been to the doctor and like you know 70 years, and he's like proud of it. And you're like they're like yeah well, you got cancer. You're you're gonna be dead next month. Like you could have done something about that.
Speaker 2:but he's like oh, you know that's literally, like you know, and I hope that through this podcast, like we, we're helping guys, like you know, be able to like like take off all of the wrong armor that we have on and like cut open our chest and like see, like our, our beating heart, like and just like, like say Lord, like minister, to me about my heart. You know and where I'm at and why I do the things that I do and why I act the way that I act and why I think the way that I think you know.
Speaker 1:It's interesting you said that about the armor. It's just like David and Goliath, right, when he stood up in front of King Saul and he was like, yeah, I'll go fight that giant, right. And Saul was quick to tell him well, use the king's armor, use my armor, yeah Right. And he put it on and he was just like I can't do this, yeah Right, I can't use this armor, I have to be myself and go fight this giant myself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's like we have to humble ourselves and just ask the Lord instead of like, like, taking on something that we're not supposed to take on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally, totally All right. Yeah, I got. I'm going to wrap it with this. This first I wanted to kind of talk about going back to the renewing of your mind thing. First I wanted to kind of talk about going back to the renewing of your mind thing and then also a renewing of your mind to be able to trust, like, what the Lord is doing. Right, that's what, that's what I feel like he's saying. So we just read, we started with Romans 12, two, where it was saying you know, talking about stop imitating the ideals and opinions of the culture, okay, but be inwardly transformed by the Holy Spirit through the total reformation of how you think. Okay, that's 12.2. So you were talking about context. I want to be a good boy. Yes, romans 11.
Speaker 2:I'm going to read this like a little bit out of order, but this is actually okay. All right, just settle in with me, boys, all right. Romans 11.33 says is actually okay, all right, just settle in with me, boys, all right. Romans 11 33 says who could ever wrap their minds around the riches of god, the depth of his wisdom and the marvel of his perfect knowledge? Who could ever explain the wonder of his decisions or search out the mysterious way. Okay, now if you go back a few more verses, it's talking about. It's titled the Mystery of Israel's Restoration, and it talks about how God like for a short, a short amount of time, well, for a time, he has blinded israel, right yeah okay, which you're like dude.
Speaker 2:That's not fair like what the heck, right.
Speaker 2:But then it says until the full number of non-jews have come into god's family, so, so God has, like, blinded the Jewish people so that then, like, the gospel message could come to people like us who are not Jews. So, through him, blinding them is the way that we were able to find our salvation. Okay, weird, right, seems unfair, like what the heck? That's weird. But then it says but you know, after that God will bring all of which. This is a weird verse. It says God will bring all of Israel to salvation. I mean, it says all which is awesome, awesome, right, so. But what I'm getting at is is is this? There's a story here that's weird, and when I read it I was like my life is weird, right, like I'm like, okay, so this story is weird. It's like god came for the jews. They kind of rejected him, so then he put blindness on them, but then that that blindness actually then caused all of the rest of the world to be saved, and then God's going to restore, you know, the Jewish people. And then it says like who could ever wrap their mind around the riches of God, the depths of his wisdom, the marvels of his perfect knowledge? Who could ever explain the wonders of his decisions or the search out the mysterious ways he carries out his plans and just like, what I got out of that was dude. If your life is weird right now, it doesn't mean he's not in it. You know he did something here that it.
Speaker 2:This is not the way I would have brought people to salvation, right, you know, and we all have these things in our lives where we're like bro, like what the heck is going on right now. This is dumb, stupid. I don't like it. It's not making any sense. It's probably never going to make sense, right, which is kind of like that story, right there. It's like why do the Jewish people have blindness on them? Like that's jacked, it seems jacked up, but it's part of his plan and that, and it's that goes back to that verse. His ways are not our ways. And it's like who? David strengthened himself in the Lord, right, that's what this verse does to me. It strengthens I'm strengthening myself in the word like that man, my life looks weird right now. My life looks so weird right now. But god is a god who. He doesn't do things like we do him. He doesn't do him in our time frame that we want it done. He might even do it in a way where everybody else is like dude what is going on?
Speaker 1:yeah, but that there that says he is in control always, always, yeah, yeah, I think we forget, right just how marvelous and majestic and grand he is. Right, like I think that's one of the biggest fights, dude, that the enemy has with us is doing whatever he can to cause us to lose the wonder of god's greatness yeah right, like to where we forget and we're blinded to the fact that his ways are not our ways.
Speaker 1:Right, his grandeur and greatness and how, just how much higher he thinks than we do. He sees the beginning from the end, right, and all the things that don't make sense to us or make perfect sense to him, because we don't have the complete picture. Yeah, right, what's that scripture say?
Speaker 2:we know in part right, but one day we'll know in full right, yeah, yeah. So hang on to that. Yeah, hang on to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hang on to that hope, yeah, yeah, ask him.
Speaker 1:I know that that's been a prayer in my heart lately, for more of the wonder and the amazement. Right Like I want to be wowed, right Like, but not in like a weird way. It's like I like god has to show off to do something. It's like like he's so great and so mighty and so majestic, so personable, so, so beautiful, so lovely, so awesome, so awe-inspiring, you know, terror inspiring, you know, and it's just like there's all these attributes right, and it's just like like, help me to always retain the wonder of who you are right because I feel that's then.
Speaker 1:You and I've had some conversations on this lately, dude, I think that's. That's the fear of the lord yeah right, it's not a fear where you're like, oh, I'm like afraid of that, like scary type of thing's. It's a reverence and an awe because we realize like just how magnificent he is and how much more above our ways he is. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, totally, you know, I was reminded of something earlier too. It's like um, just also, like you know, just getting into a time of worship you know, like um, I heard somebody say the other day like, you know, if you keep focusing on the problem and you just like, are always like, if you're trying to figure out the problem and look up the problem and Google the problem and pray about the problem, it's just like then. It's just like then you just magnify the problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so, and what he was saying was like, get into worship, you know. Like, like, do something different, like, let let the Holy Spirit come and just minister to you. Right. Like you don't got to, like figure it, like just go. And even that might seem counterintuitive, you know, it does to me sometimes, you know, but something can happen. As we worship him, you know, we just find some freedom, yeah.
Speaker 1:I had a chance to um to minister a church on Sunday this past Sunday and that's one of the parts in my message was talking about. You know, we always hear of the great, the goodness of God, and you know his love and his mercy and all this other. But there's also a part of him, like where the Psalms and other scriptures talk about like the terror of the Lord, right, and just how awesome and and just thunderous presence and all these things, right. It's Psalms 29 is is one of one of the ones that goes through that description where he just is able to strike fear and bring mountains low, and I encourage you guys just to read that in Psalms 29. The Passion Translation always is just one of the best descriptive versions, but in there it just talks about him speaking and making deer give birth right.
Speaker 1:And the snow being knocked off of mountains and trees being leveled. You know, and it's I think we forget, like we hear so much about the love of god, and on the one side of him, but there's the other side of him where it's like like he literally is the god of the universe, where he has created all of these things and all of these things are subject to him and he's able to strike fear and terror into the hearts of those right, I mean, but in like a fear of the lord way.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, unless you're an enemy of god right, right yeah but it's like I I was telling the congregation, it's just like think, think about that for a moment. Like it says that he could make the mountains lay bare, right the trees, like like just knock them flat to the ground. Just from him speaking, I mean think about what that must look like. Yeah, right, I mean you talk about striking fear in in the hearts of everyone.
Speaker 1:That would see it, you know, um, let's talk about here it's splintering the mighty forest, shaking the snowy peaks, with his ear, splitting sound, making. When he speaks and reveals himself, he makes the fault lines quake. You know and I was trying to get across to the congregation it's like to think about what that's saying. It's like it's part of who he is right. It's like this. This psalm 29 describes those attributes of the fear of the lord but, and more importantly, is like when we understand that, imagine what the enemy sees yeah right, right, like this is this is who, who he is, and we're supposed to fear him in that holy, reverent way.
Speaker 1:But this, it's not meant to us to be a negative thing. Right so it's like when the enemy sees that, just how much, how much more fear does that strike into his heart, right Like when we invite the presence of the Lord into our lives and we into our situations and it's like it's it's all of him.
Speaker 1:We don't just get part of him. We get the loving grace, mercy and all of that right, the forgiveness and all of that right, but we also get the awe and terror inspiring part of him too, because that's also part of his personality and it's like this is also who lives within us.
Speaker 1:Yeah right yeah it's like the scripture says, it's like the same spirit that raised christ from the dead resides within us, right? So it's like all of that power like is living in us as believers. So it's like we just never tap into that, yeah, right, because we're losing. If we've lost the wonder and the amazement of God and his awesomeness, it's like we forget that. It's like this is also who he is. It's like when he fights for's like this is also who he is.
Speaker 1:It's like when he fights for us, this is what the enemy sees, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's like he speaks dude and the fault lines quake and open up so cool, like I don't think I've ever thought about this, but I was thinking, like you know, I think like the Bible is um literal and spiritual, if that makes sense. You know, like I think, like when it says, like you know he speaks and it lays the mountains bare, you know, um, the fault lines quake like it's it said, it means what it says, but also I always think that there's like a spiritual application and I was thinking, you know, maybe it's like when he speaks and when we were listening and when we, when we ask him to speak, like he can lay bare your soul. You know, like he can like cause your like inner fault lines to quake. He could cause something in you to give birth. You know what I mean, like spiritually. You know, like I got this mountain and it's covered in dirt or whatever he speaks, and just boom and it just blows everything out you know, yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1:I think that's one of the things I told you yesterday. It was like it's in this process with dealing with stress and anxiety and some of the other things I've been dealing with. It's like it's literally like I couldn't. I couldn't do anything to help myself at all in any of the situations.
Speaker 1:I've ever been in and what did I tell you yesterday? It took it took God allowing me to hear him speak. Yeah, right, because he's the only one that's powerful enough and strong enough to interrupt what I was thinking and the fear and anxiety and the other things the enemy was trying to sow, like by me hearing his voice, he was able to interrupt the thing that was happening, to get me to divert my attention off of that thing onto him, to listen to him. And then he speaks into that situation, yeah, and it just dissipates, right, right, but that's like I can't do it in my own strength, and this is part of goes even goes back to renewing of the mind too, because it's like we have to understand who he is right.
Speaker 1:And it's like he's that powerful where, if you're like you're stuck with anxiety or fear, your, your marriage or whatever the case is like, and he speaks into the situation. Just him speaking into the situation is powerful enough to interrupt what the enemy is doing and the hurt that it's causing and confusion that it's causing inside of us, to get our attention. Yeah, our problem, I think and my problem was a lot of the times is I didn't stop and change direction and listen to him. Yeah, yeah, I didn't move with him.
Speaker 1:You were sort of stunned in the moment, him it just, you were sort of stunned in the moment and then you just sort of moved on yeah just thankful it was over yeah but because he's been renewing my mind and my heart daily and we've been in this process like I'm starting to get it now where I'm like I'm taking time to pause and be like okay, what's? There's something more in this right. He's trying to change the way that I'm thinking and the way that I'm looking at this situation that I've been dealing with and struggling with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's something that's so interesting and hard about all this stuff because, like, if I want to get in shape, I got to work, right, I got to. I gotta get up early, I gotta go to the gym, I gotta lift weights, I gotta like. Then I gotta like do exercise, I gotta like do cardio, I gotta eat. Well, I have to do a lot of stuff. So we kind of take that like same model and we say like I need to, I need to change my life, my stuff in my spiritual life.
Speaker 2:And we got to do work. But it's funny because just the other day I was like, you know, I was like Lord, like what am I supposed to be doing right now about this situation? And I felt like he was just like nothing, like just give it to me and just let it go, you know, and I was like, well, that doesn't seem very, you know way too simple.
Speaker 2:Right, but but again, going back to the thing of me holding onto all these ropes, I mean, maybe that is the thing. It's like you know I'm I'm trying to thing. It's like you know I'm I'm trying to do all this stuff over here, but if I would just let go and let God do like whatever and trust him, you know, so it's like it's so counterintuitive and it almost seems like, well, you're not doing anything you know, but maybe the problem is that we're always doing something and it's not helping. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, doing too much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I mean I've said this to you before it's like all change that has occurred in my life has only come through the Holy Spirit doing a miracle in me yeah.
Speaker 1:I've never been able to change myself yeah so I think that's what the lord was trying to get me to realize the other day. It's like I, I can't change the way that I think I'm not strong enough to change. You know, if I'm dealing with anxiety, it's like I or fear whatever. It's like I'm not strong enough to fight that I can't. I can't out think it, I can't out feel it, I can't out maneuver it, I can't do anything apart from him yeah I only band-aided at the best right right, right.
Speaker 1:but when he speaks and then I grab a hold of that, it's shattered right, right, completely. Yeah, because what does it say? It's like at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow. Yeah, every tongue will confess that he is Lord. That even means the situations. If it has a name, it's got to bow. Yeah, right, yeah. If you're going through something, it's got a name, it's got to bow. Yeah. If you're dealing with cancer or a disease or something, if it's got a name, it's got a bow.
Speaker 2:If you're dealing with fear and anxiety, it's got a bow yeah, it's good to be continued yeah, I know we need a 24 hour podcast where we just keep talking, because there's no end to all this he's just done so much stuff, man.
Speaker 1:There's just too much stuff to talk about yeah, too much goodness actually.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you want to?
Speaker 1:pray us out yeah, lord, we just thank you for today. We thank you for all those that are listening. We thank you for literally everything. Thank you for all those that are listening. We thank you for literally everything that you've brought us through every trial, every situation, every hardship, every time that we thought that you had left us high and dry and you were just dealing with our hearts, causing us to think different and to follow you into a place that we didn't understand and we didn't know.
Speaker 1:We pray that anybody that is listening to this podcast, that they would challenge themselves to pursue you in a way that they haven't, that they would challenge themselves to listen to you and to be obedient to what you're trying to do, that they would find the strength and the courage to begin to read your word daily and to engage you on the daily, to find out what your will is for their life. We pray that you would just help them, in every aspect of their life, to know the greatness and the wonder of who you are. In Jesus' name, amen, amen, amen. Thanks for listening.
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